Estaba partiéndome el culo leyendo esa maravilla de tomo recopilatorio titulada "Dixie Fried" de Predicador, y me he decidido a comprar la colección entera, o al menos hasta donde deje de hacerme gracia.
Yo tenía de hace tiempo los dos primeros tomos recopilatorios de Norma: Rumbo a Texas y Hasta el fin del mundo, creo que se llamaban así. La cosa es que luego Vertigo cambó de manos y cuando empezó Planeta no sabía que tomo era el que seguía al último que tenía yo.
¿Algún entendido me dice cuál es el orden cronológico de los tomos recopilatorios? Dixie Fried no es el que sigue a Hasta el fin del mundo, porque cuenta cosas sobre un viaje a Francia que yo no he leído.
Gracias, hamigos frikones.
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Ni idea, yo me la estoy haciendo en la reedición de Planeta. De todas formas, mira en la wes de Norma Editorial haber si hay reseñas o algo. No te lo miro yo mismo porque me están controlando mucho hoy en el curro gnie
Ramon escribió:Es que en el futuro no habrá ni buenos ni malos, solo gilipollas.
Y quien dice en el futuro dice esta tarde.
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En Norma no encontra nada ordenado, ni en planeta tampoco. Pero en la wiki, sí 
Gone to Texas (collects issues 1–7)
Reverend Jesse Custer, a tough Texas preacher who's lost his faith, is possessed by a mysterious entity called Genesis — a conscienceless force whose power may rival that of God Himself. Through insight granted him by Genesis, now lodged in Jesse's mind in a sort of supernatural symbiosis, Jesse learns that the Lord God has left Heaven and abandoned His responsibilities. Moreover, Jesse becomes aware that he has been given the power of The Word Of God, depicted in the comic through the use of red text (a reference to the printing method often used for indicating Jesus' speech in the Bible), allowing him to deliver irresistible commands to any being, including God Himself (e.g. "Eat your gun" or "Count three million grains of sand", whereupon the commandee cannot help but to comply fully. This power bears somewhat ironic linguistic and physical limitations, explored occasionally throughout the series). Armed with these newfound attributes, he sets out on a quest to find God and make Him answer for His dereliction of duty.
Accompanying Jesse on his journey are Tulip O'Hare, Jesse's former girlfriend who has long thought that he abandoned her, and Cassidy, a 100-year-old Irish vampire who often seems to prefer a pint in the pub to the blood of the innocent — though his unavoidable, unnatural hunger is something of a sticky point for the ethical Preacher.
Meanwhile, in Heaven, a quorum of angels, trying desperately to keep things from falling apart, decides to send the Saint of Killers — an immortal, unstoppable killing machine — to Earth with orders to recapture Genesis at any cost.
Until the End of the World (collects issues 8–17)
In "All in the Family", Jesse's secret past is revealed as he is forced to confront his family, and the horrible childhood he's been running from his entire life.
In "Hunters", Jesse and Co. travel west to San Francisco, where they run afoul of a pair of 'sexual investigators'; an armadillo-sodomizing, lifelong-partying aesthete by the name of Jesus de Sade; and The Grail — an ancient and immensely powerful religious conspiracy that wants to use Jesse's power to bring about Armageddon. The Grail is personified by a clever and ambitious German military expert known only as 'Herr Starr' (who, along with God, serves as the series' primary villain).
Proud Americans (collects issues 18–26)
Jesse and Tulip journey to France to rescue Cassidy from the Grail's heavily-guarded secret fortress ('Masada'), where Cassidy (pretending to be Custer) is being held by Herr Starr and tortured by a gelded, sadistic Mafioso named Frankie the Eunuch (who uses a Lee-Enfield bolt-action rifle to torture Cassidy). The Saint of Killers follows them, and all Hell breaks loose.
Upon their return to the States, a grateful Cassidy tells Jesse his life's story: how he fought in the Irish War of Independence, how he was assaulted by a bog-hag outside of Dublin and turned into a vampire, and how he began his long love affair with New York City.
Ancient History (collects the Saint of Killers limited series, plus Preacher Special: The Story of You-Know-Who and Preacher Special: The Good Old Boys)
In the four-part "Saint of Killers" story, we learn who the Saint was before he died, and why he was given the job of Angel of Death. Also, hell freezes over. (art by Steve Pugh and Carlos Ezquerra)
The Story of You-Know-Who (so-called because DC would not allow the word "arse" to be used on the cover) recounts the events that led up to and followed Arseface's attempted suicide. (art by Richard Case)
The Good Old Boys is a twisted satire of 1980s action movies, starring none other than Jody and T.C. from the "All in the Family" storyline. (art by Carlos Ezquerra)
Dixie Fried (collects issues 27–33 and Preacher Special: Blood and Whiskey)
Blood and Whiskey is a tale of Cassidy's past; the story of the New Orleans-based gothic cult 'Les Enfants du Sang' and the only time Cassidy ever met another vampire.
In Dixie Fried, our heroes arrive in New Orleans, where an old friend of Cassidy's — who just happens to be a voodoo priest — may be able to help Jesse unlock the secrets locked deep within Genesis. Unfortunately, a dark aspect of Cassidy's past (shown in Blood and Whiskey) threatens to confound this attempt and kill everyone involved.
War in the Sun (collects issues 34–40 and Preacher Special: One Man's War)
In One Man's War, we learn exactly what kind of man Herr Starr is, where he came from, and how he got involved in the Grail conspiracy. (art by Peter Snejberg)
In War in the Sun, Starr's lust for power reaches its peak with a massive military assault in Monument Valley, Utah. Starr comes prepared with an entire tank battalion and even a nuke, but is all that hardware really enough to stop the Saint of Killers? (The answer, of course, is 'not enough gun.')
Salvation (collects issues 41–50)
Presumed dead and feeling betrayed by both his true love and his best friend, Jesse abandons his quest and takes a job as a lawman in the tiny town of Salvation, Texas — where a figure from his past suddenly re-emerges, even as Jesse (along with beautiful Deputy Cindy Dagget) deals with domestic disputes, the KKK, and the robber-baron of the town, the disgustingly psychotic Odin Quincannon. Also, Jesse is kidnapped by a mad Nazi Fetishist hellbent on making him her 'Fuhrer of Love'. He later ingests peyote which causes him to remember his climactic confrontation with God (including a symbolic injury which may be an allusion to the Nordic namesake of the series's most recent villain figure), following the events in Monument Valley.
All Hell's A-Coming (collects issues 51–58 and Preacher Special: Tall in the Saddle)
Tulip finally escapes from the self-destructive spiral she's been in since Jesse's 'death'. Jesse and Tulip are reunited, and Jesse learns just how much of a bastard Cassidy really is.
"Tall in the Saddle" is a tale of Jesse and Tulip's wild early experiments in car theft.
Alamo (collects issues 59–66)
A crescendo is reached, deep in the heart of Texas: Jesse hatches an ingenious scheme to finally put an end to his quest; Starr gives up on his plans for Jesse, and decides to just kill him instead; Jesse has his final confrontation with Cassidy outside the walls of the Alamo; Tulip shows everyone exactly what she's made of; and the Saint finally finds what he's been looking for.
Mañana me voy pa tarragona a por el Orgullosos americanos y el Historia antigua.
Gone to Texas (collects issues 1–7)
Reverend Jesse Custer, a tough Texas preacher who's lost his faith, is possessed by a mysterious entity called Genesis — a conscienceless force whose power may rival that of God Himself. Through insight granted him by Genesis, now lodged in Jesse's mind in a sort of supernatural symbiosis, Jesse learns that the Lord God has left Heaven and abandoned His responsibilities. Moreover, Jesse becomes aware that he has been given the power of The Word Of God, depicted in the comic through the use of red text (a reference to the printing method often used for indicating Jesus' speech in the Bible), allowing him to deliver irresistible commands to any being, including God Himself (e.g. "Eat your gun" or "Count three million grains of sand", whereupon the commandee cannot help but to comply fully. This power bears somewhat ironic linguistic and physical limitations, explored occasionally throughout the series). Armed with these newfound attributes, he sets out on a quest to find God and make Him answer for His dereliction of duty.
Accompanying Jesse on his journey are Tulip O'Hare, Jesse's former girlfriend who has long thought that he abandoned her, and Cassidy, a 100-year-old Irish vampire who often seems to prefer a pint in the pub to the blood of the innocent — though his unavoidable, unnatural hunger is something of a sticky point for the ethical Preacher.
Meanwhile, in Heaven, a quorum of angels, trying desperately to keep things from falling apart, decides to send the Saint of Killers — an immortal, unstoppable killing machine — to Earth with orders to recapture Genesis at any cost.
Until the End of the World (collects issues 8–17)
In "All in the Family", Jesse's secret past is revealed as he is forced to confront his family, and the horrible childhood he's been running from his entire life.
In "Hunters", Jesse and Co. travel west to San Francisco, where they run afoul of a pair of 'sexual investigators'; an armadillo-sodomizing, lifelong-partying aesthete by the name of Jesus de Sade; and The Grail — an ancient and immensely powerful religious conspiracy that wants to use Jesse's power to bring about Armageddon. The Grail is personified by a clever and ambitious German military expert known only as 'Herr Starr' (who, along with God, serves as the series' primary villain).
Proud Americans (collects issues 18–26)
Jesse and Tulip journey to France to rescue Cassidy from the Grail's heavily-guarded secret fortress ('Masada'), where Cassidy (pretending to be Custer) is being held by Herr Starr and tortured by a gelded, sadistic Mafioso named Frankie the Eunuch (who uses a Lee-Enfield bolt-action rifle to torture Cassidy). The Saint of Killers follows them, and all Hell breaks loose.
Upon their return to the States, a grateful Cassidy tells Jesse his life's story: how he fought in the Irish War of Independence, how he was assaulted by a bog-hag outside of Dublin and turned into a vampire, and how he began his long love affair with New York City.
Ancient History (collects the Saint of Killers limited series, plus Preacher Special: The Story of You-Know-Who and Preacher Special: The Good Old Boys)
In the four-part "Saint of Killers" story, we learn who the Saint was before he died, and why he was given the job of Angel of Death. Also, hell freezes over. (art by Steve Pugh and Carlos Ezquerra)
The Story of You-Know-Who (so-called because DC would not allow the word "arse" to be used on the cover) recounts the events that led up to and followed Arseface's attempted suicide. (art by Richard Case)
The Good Old Boys is a twisted satire of 1980s action movies, starring none other than Jody and T.C. from the "All in the Family" storyline. (art by Carlos Ezquerra)
Dixie Fried (collects issues 27–33 and Preacher Special: Blood and Whiskey)
Blood and Whiskey is a tale of Cassidy's past; the story of the New Orleans-based gothic cult 'Les Enfants du Sang' and the only time Cassidy ever met another vampire.
In Dixie Fried, our heroes arrive in New Orleans, where an old friend of Cassidy's — who just happens to be a voodoo priest — may be able to help Jesse unlock the secrets locked deep within Genesis. Unfortunately, a dark aspect of Cassidy's past (shown in Blood and Whiskey) threatens to confound this attempt and kill everyone involved.
War in the Sun (collects issues 34–40 and Preacher Special: One Man's War)
In One Man's War, we learn exactly what kind of man Herr Starr is, where he came from, and how he got involved in the Grail conspiracy. (art by Peter Snejberg)
In War in the Sun, Starr's lust for power reaches its peak with a massive military assault in Monument Valley, Utah. Starr comes prepared with an entire tank battalion and even a nuke, but is all that hardware really enough to stop the Saint of Killers? (The answer, of course, is 'not enough gun.')
Salvation (collects issues 41–50)
Presumed dead and feeling betrayed by both his true love and his best friend, Jesse abandons his quest and takes a job as a lawman in the tiny town of Salvation, Texas — where a figure from his past suddenly re-emerges, even as Jesse (along with beautiful Deputy Cindy Dagget) deals with domestic disputes, the KKK, and the robber-baron of the town, the disgustingly psychotic Odin Quincannon. Also, Jesse is kidnapped by a mad Nazi Fetishist hellbent on making him her 'Fuhrer of Love'. He later ingests peyote which causes him to remember his climactic confrontation with God (including a symbolic injury which may be an allusion to the Nordic namesake of the series's most recent villain figure), following the events in Monument Valley.
All Hell's A-Coming (collects issues 51–58 and Preacher Special: Tall in the Saddle)
Tulip finally escapes from the self-destructive spiral she's been in since Jesse's 'death'. Jesse and Tulip are reunited, and Jesse learns just how much of a bastard Cassidy really is.
"Tall in the Saddle" is a tale of Jesse and Tulip's wild early experiments in car theft.
Alamo (collects issues 59–66)
A crescendo is reached, deep in the heart of Texas: Jesse hatches an ingenious scheme to finally put an end to his quest; Starr gives up on his plans for Jesse, and decides to just kill him instead; Jesse has his final confrontation with Cassidy outside the walls of the Alamo; Tulip shows everyone exactly what she's made of; and the Saint finally finds what he's been looking for.
Mañana me voy pa tarragona a por el Orgullosos americanos y el Historia antigua.
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Yo sinceramente estoy haciendo el recopilatorio cronológico de Planeta, por que es la PUTA POLLA y una maravilla que pronto se explotará en serie de tv y dará cien vueltas a Perdidos o Héroes (si se hace fiel al original, que tiene todos los elementos típicos de una buena serie actual de tv).
Por que Norma lo editó con el ano y planeta a nivel recopilatorios también por que no te enteras de nada. Ya va por el número 11 la serie regular, y mola que te cagas o dos.
Por que Norma lo editó con el ano y planeta a nivel recopilatorios también por que no te enteras de nada. Ya va por el número 11 la serie regular, y mola que te cagas o dos.
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A mí estos días se me cae la boca de hablar bien del Punisher MAX del Ennis. Una puta obra de arte, en serio. Creo que ningún otro hubiera podido dar tan grandes historias y elevar al personaje a la grandeza que se merece en un comic para adultos.
Sencillamente, maravilloso. Los Esclavistas me puso la piel de gallina.
Sencillamente, maravilloso. Los Esclavistas me puso la piel de gallina.
Ramon escribió:Es que en el futuro no habrá ni buenos ni malos, solo gilipollas.
Y quien dice en el futuro dice esta tarde.
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Le echaré un vistazo, pues. Yo ya dije por aquí que tenía un par o tres. Nacimiento, La cocina del infierno y no sé si alguno más. Nacimiento estaba bien, pero con La cocina me aburrí muchísimo. Me pareció un transfondo muy simple para colar insultos y violencia sin más. También ayuda a que el conjunto sea más discreto el hecho de que Frank Castle tenga la profunidad psicológica de un cubo de playa. Pero si me dices que Los esclavistas mola, me lo ojeo en al tienda.
The last samurai escribió:Le echaré un vistazo, pues. Yo ya dije por aquí que tenía un par o tres. Nacimiento, La cocina del infierno y no sé si alguno más. Nacimiento estaba bien, pero con La cocina me aburrí muchísimo. Me pareció un transfondo muy simple para colar insultos y violencia sin más. También ayuda a que el conjunto sea más discreto el hecho de que Frank Castle tenga la profunidad psicológica de un cubo de playa. Pero si me dices que Los esclavistas mola, me lo ojeo en al tienda.
Al margen de los números sueltos y la historia de Vietnam (que creo que es Nacimiento), los tomos son :
1 - En el Principio
2 - Cocina Irlandesa
3- Madre Rusia
4 - Arriba es Abajo, Blanco es Negro
5 - Los Esclavistas
6 - El Tigre (aunque realmente no tiene número)
En el Principio, es un primer tomo cojonudo; Cocina Irlandesa está bien construido, pero como dices, puede aburrir en algún momento. Madre Rusia es cojonudisimo y tiene citas para la posteridad. El cuarto empieza muy fuerte, aunque luego se queda un poco corto, pero es bastante bueno, igualmente. Y Los Esclavistas, me impacto mucho, por lo genial de la historia, el ambiente y el regusto amargo que te deja. El Tigre sólo vale la pena por la primera historia y la última, las únicas escritas por Ennis.
Ramon escribió:Es que en el futuro no habrá ni buenos ni malos, solo gilipollas.
Y quien dice en el futuro dice esta tarde.
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Hacedme el favor de ir al rastro a buscar los 12 primeros números de PUNISHER de Garth Ennis y el Dillon (Matt no, Steve, aunque dibuje a todos con la cara de Matt).
Todo lo demás a partir de ahí, en comparación, es mierda puta, por que Ennis es un poco subnormal y estira de donde no hay y sedebío haber quedado para la posteridad sin hacer nada absolutamente después de Predicador y esos 12 números de Punisher. Alomejor Panini los reedita en vez de publicar tomos nuevos que son mierda en lata.
Todo lo demás a partir de ahí, en comparación, es mierda puta, por que Ennis es un poco subnormal y estira de donde no hay y sedebío haber quedado para la posteridad sin hacer nada absolutamente después de Predicador y esos 12 números de Punisher. Alomejor Panini los reedita en vez de publicar tomos nuevos que son mierda en lata.